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From: gml at phrick.net (gml)
Subject: hackers are evil?

On Thursday 12 June 2003 12:49 pm, madsaxon wrote:

for the record, i've been saying we need to change the
nomenclature for awhile, suddenly everyone cares.
i am truly amused.  i'm going to go off now and be ahead
of the curve some more.

> [Since nothing appears to be "off topic" for this list, I don't
> feel constrained to withhold my comments on that basis.]
>
> At 01:21 AM 6/13/03 +1000, Darren Reed wrote:
> >The english language evolves and this is just part of it.  Just as
> >"jelly" in the USA is different to "jelly" in Australia, "hacker"
> >post circa 1990 is different to "hacker" pre circa 1990.
>
> Oh, so "Fosters" is, in fact, Australian for "beer?"
>
> I guess I'm not ready to have the language I employ every day of
> my life dictated by the mass media.  The evolution of language
> is conducted by consensus of the users, but in this case that
> consensus has been artificially promulgated not by a
> preponderance of the speakers, but by a very small minority
> who are supposed to be in the business of informing. If that
> doesn't bother you, fine.  It does me.  If "hacker" were the only
> instance of this phenomenon, I'd just write it off as an anomaly.
> It isn't, however.  There are many examples, some obvious, some
> rather more subtle.
>
> We all have causes for which we're prepared to fight...
>
> m5x
>
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