full-disclosure - Fwd: Re: Infobot-backdoor

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From: cihu at hotbrev.com (Karl Elgerstedt)
Subject: Fwd: Re: Infobot-backdoor


-----Original Message-----
From: "Karl Elgerstedt" <cihu@...brev.com>
To: "Donnie Weiner" <s2_pi_di_ty@...mail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 17:30:15 +0200
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Infobot-backdoor

> "kiddies are ones who use others tools and have no knowledge whatsoever
> on 
> how they work..."
> You're just about as wrong with this term as morning_wood is with the
> usage 
> of "0-day". There are more ways to be a kiddie then simply using
> premade 
> tools. More specifically, a kiddie is someone who lacks significant
> skill

How cute. A kiddie is - well you know someone young(go look it up for a
more correct definition). I suppose you must be referring to a script
kiddie and that is actually a nick name for a pen tester(yah, with no
skill). Or are you talking about the "trojan kiddie"-term that you just
made up(Yah, go google for "trojan kiddie" and see how many respected
members of the "security community" that uses it, lol)?

> (e.g., you). So you've written a few password stealers, "Wow! Highly 
> sophistocated technonolgy!" Besides, all the evidence I've come across
> says 
> you don't even write the code, you rip it (go figure). Nevertheless,
> how 
> does this benefit the security community? 

Who cares?

> All you're doing 
> is feeding lame 13 year olds who know how to infect people over kazaa
> and 
> use the compromised systems for DDoS. Anybody responsible for something
> this 
> lame should be ashamed of themselves. 

Isn't it funny, you're instulting the whole "security community" =).

> Hence, you're a trojan kiddie.

So sweet =)




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