full-disclosure - Blowing up PC's and leaking CERT info

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Message-ID: <871080DEC5874D41B4E3AFC5C400611E03F603F1@UTDEVS02.campus.ad.utdallas.edu>
From: pauls at utdallas.edu (Schmehl, Paul L)
Subject: Blowing up PC's and leaking CERT info

I'm aware of what the *press* said was the international attitude.  I'm
aware that the communists worldwide fomented anti-war demonstrations.
I'm not aware of what the attitude of most people in most countries was,
because the press didn't report *that*.

No one but Spain and UK supported it?  Please!  Kuwaitis *celebrated*
the war.  Qatar hosted the Centcom headquarters.  Jordan supported it.
So did Saudi Arabia, Portugal, Australia, Poland, Italy, and a host of
other countries (somewhere around 55 or so.)  The Iraqi exiles in the US
were celebrating in the streets when Sadaam's statue came down.

You can ignore the obvious if you want to.  That's your privilege.  Most
*civilized* people think allowing crazed killers to go around blowing up
innocent citizens is an activity that shouldn't be encouraged.

If a man came in to your house, shot your wife and raped your daughter,
what would you do?  Try to understand his hatred for you?  Emphathize
with his poor upbringing and sad situation?  For you family's sake, I
hope not.  Nor should you be blamed for shooting him dead on the spot.

Yet you blame Bush....

Paul Schmehl (pauls@...allas.edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/ 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rodrigo Gutierrez [mailto:packet@....net] 
> Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:17 AM
> To: Schmehl, Paul L
> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Blowing up PC's and leaking CERT info
> 
> 
> Paul,
> 	I'm not sure if you know what was the international 
> opinion for the attacks to Iraq, but certainly, no one except 
> Spain and UK supported it, if you think a bit, how could for 
> instance Iraq nor Afghanistan strike back to the US in what 
> they consider was wrong, obviously they don't have a way to 
> come and bomb New York from the air, but they do have people 
> willing to die for what they think is right (even though 
> their religion looks stupid to me).  Tell me on that scenario 
> what you think is the most likely way they will come back to 
> America, probably suicide bombers and terrorist attacks (they 
> don't have another way to do this).
> 
>         Thats human logic, if Bush believes that he controls 
> everything, he is fucking stupid, he should expect to get a 
> reply, he knows that he will get a reply the problem here is 
> that he won't get hurt, will probably be American people that 
> get hurt for a monkeys attitude of their president, is that 
> right to you? is another 9/11 right to you? thats probably 
> what Bush will get back on what he's doing.