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Message-ID: <000001c34c65$2389d7f0$4e2ea8c0@LUFKIN.DPSOL.COM>
From: purdy at tecman.com (Curt Purdy)
Subject: Participation in System Administrator Survey

Well put Ron.  Stamatis actually did more work than most having dug my name
out of the SANS cert list a few weeks ago, which is why I took the time to
fill it out.  The more young minds we bring into this field, especially from
true academic research, the more we will all learn.

Curt Purdy CISSP, GSEC, MCSE+I, CNE, CCDA
Information Security Engineer
DP Solutions

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If you spend more on coffee than on IT security, you will be hacked.
What's more, you deserve to be hacked.
-- White House cybersecurity adviser Richard Clarke


-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com]On Behalf Of Ron DuFresne
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:39 PM
To: Stamatis Bolakis
Cc: Schmehl, Paul L; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Participation in System Administrator
Survey



Stamatis' survey request has appeared in a number of lists, some with more
restrictive participation then this unmoderated forum.  I've seen a number
of such and participated in many over the years.  It's a fairly standard
avenue for students to join and read lists in areas of their choice of
study, as well as on occasion actually articipating or requesting help in
gathering information for their studies.  We could well see more of these
kind of requests over time.  some will respond to the requestor <hopefully
not to the full list!> and help them out, some will hit the delete key and
move on.  Hopefully few will be putoff enough that the list floods for a
few days of 'complaints and counter complaints and claims of spamming',
that we can tolerate anothers quest for knowledge and learning <smile>.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne

On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, [iso-8859-7] Stamatis Bolakis wrote:

>
> You are absolutely right... I couldn?t imagine or predict the impacts of
my action. It was under my effort to reach some responses for my Survey...
Of course I regret about that...
>
> I feel this way to distribute a Survey also can run the risk of alienating
people (e.g. being perceived as spamming), but I will never know what kind
of success can be have without trying...
>
> Regards,
> Stamatis
>
>
> Stamatis Bolakis
> MSc Network Systems Engineering
> University of Plymouth, UK.
>
>
>
>
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> ????????? ??? ?????? ???@...oo.gr ?????????  ??? Yahoo! Mail.
>

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