full-disclosure - Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service

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Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.55.0307161954050.14118@panix2.panix.com>
From: jays at panix.com (Jay Sulzberger)
Subject: Odd Behavior - Windows Messenger Service


On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, David Vincent wrote:

> this is messenger service spam.
>
> the messenger service runs by default out of the box.  since it runs as a
> service, it is running and accepting connections before anyone logs in.
>
> you happenned to login with the admin login, i bet if you'd done the same
> thing with a user account it would have been on that desktop too.  those
> messenger spams are sent to MACHINES not USERS.
>
> this is a FEATURE not a bug or a security vuln.
>
> if you don't want these, there's TONS of info on how to stop it.  turning
> off the messenger service/installing a firewall/not being stupid and setting
> up an unprotected machine while connected to the internet are all good
> options.
>
>
> -d

Do not use any system which by default listens on a uncontrolled channel,
which channel may easily be used to fool the sysadmin, and, even more
easily, most users.

oo--JS.


>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: morning_wood [mailto:se_cur_ity@...mail.com]
> > Sent: July 16, 2003 1:12 PM
> > To: Martin; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Odd Behavior - Windows
> > Messenger Service
> >
> >
> > > I can confirm this behavior. This service is enabled on Windows 2000
> > > and XP by default.
> > > I noticed it on my sister's PC after she clicked away 3
> > advertisement
> > >pop-ups and growling at the PC. I think that the average user does
> > >not know how to disable it.
> > > (And btw: NO, the average MS-Windows user is NOT USING any
> > firewalls.)
> > >
> >
> >
> > more to the point... THERE WAS NO LOGIN PERIOD
> > this was a fresh install.. waiting at the login prompt.. the
> > pop up was
> > there before any user ( admin ) settings initialized or login
> > took place.
> > once again.. this is out of  the box install following all prompts, no
> > sharing etc. ( only setting computer name and workgroup
> > )reboot.. sit at
> > login prompt.. login.. pop up was waiting on an uninitialized
> > desktop..
> > this is my question / issue...   NOT my personal security or lack of
> > knowlege about basic networking / security.
> > disabling the service is easy, im reporting on default out of the box
> > behavior, not how to get rid of it or protect myself.
> > please all.. re-read my scenario...
> >
> > donnie
> >
> >
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