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From: curiositov at hotmail.com (Curious ByStander)
Subject: Secunia - Delaying information again!
Interesting that it takes you three days to re-write a superbly written
advisory by NextGen.
>From: Thomas Balle <thomas@...le.dk>
>To: Curious ByStander <curiositov@...mail.com>
>CC: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
>Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Secunia - Delaying information again!
>Date: 21 Jul 2003 16:06:30 +0200
>
>Hi Curious ByStander,
>
>I've noticed this in your email header:
>Received: from 217.35.80.116 by by8fd.bay8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP;
>Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:41:44 GMT
>X-Originating-IP: [217.35.80.116]
>
>And this in the header of the email from Sintelli where they announced
>their new list:
>Received: from [217.35.80.116] (helo=W2) by mta03.btfusion.com with
>esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 19b6Re-0000AZ-00 for
>full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com; Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:32:50 +0000
>
>Interesting!
>
>Comments to your email:
>
>Secunia does not delay the information. The information which we send to
>our customers and subscribers of the mail list is sent with only minutes
>in between.
>
>We never promised that our information is the fastest, we spend time
>confirming, evaluating and rewriting the information. It is the nature
>of our service to do so - this causes a "delay".
>
>Our concern about BugTraq is that you often find information in a
>certain vulnerability database before you receive the original email
>from BugTraq. SF claims this isn't the case. We encourage everyone to go
>look for them selves, I'm sure you will agree with us, that the timing
>is strange - I guess there is a reason why you have subscribed to
>Full-Disclosure :)
>
>That is why we encourage everybody to use Full-Disclosure and VulnWatch
>when publishing information, currently that is the only two sources that
>doesn't have a financial interest in delaying or censoring information.
>
>We believe in Full-Disclosure too.
>
>Kind regards,
>
>Thomas Kristensen
>Secunia
>
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