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From: purdy at tecman.com (Curt Purdy)
Subject: f-prot not catching mimail ?

As soon as I saw this email I terminaled into our SMTP server and saw
F-Secure grabbed the first mimail on July 27, a week ago.  The reason I was
so shocked by this email, is that in the 14 years I have been fighting
viruses, and have used everything, I saw multiple instances of Norton and
McAfee either not finding or not removing a virus.  But in all that time I
have never found one that got by F-Prot, then later F-Secure, which is why
it is the only AV we use from firewall to mail server to desktop.

If it sounds like I'm prejudiced, it's because I am.

Curt Purdy CISSP, GSEC, MCSE+I, CNE, CCDA
Information Security Engineer
DP Solutions
cpurdy@...ol.com
936.637.7977 ext. 121

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If you spend more on coffee than on IT security, you will be hacked.
What's more, you deserve to be hacked.
-- White House cybersecurity adviser Richard Clarke



-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com]On Behalf Of Mike Tancsa
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 1:34 PM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: [inbox] [Full-Disclosure] f-prot not catching mimail ?



I have a few copies of the mimail virus from yesterday that f-prot even
with its latest updates do not catch.  Both the Windows and FreeBSD version
fail to identify the two main variants I have got sent my way.

e.g.
avscan1% md5 *.DEF
MD5 (MACRO.DEF) = fc09bc864e62639bc3424e3425083421
MD5 (SIGN.DEF) = a5d8c14285b2c866e3261421f7f3a0d2
MD5 (SIGN2.DEF) = 12c403a108c398aeaca01a2a4da68de4
avscan1% f-prot -verno
F-PROT ANTIVIRUS
Program version: 4.1.0
Engine version: 3.13.3

VIRUS SIGNATURE FILES
SIGN.DEF created 1 August 2003
SIGN2.DEF created 1 August 2003
MACRO.DEF created 28 July 2003
avscan1%


avscan1% f-prot message*.html
Virus scanning report  -  2 August 2003 @ 14:29

F-PROT ANTIVIRUS
Program version: 4.1.0
Engine version: 3.13.3

VIRUS SIGNATURE FILES
SIGN.DEF created 1 August 2003
SIGN2.DEF created 1 August 2003
MACRO.DEF created 28 July 2003

Search: message.html message2.html
Action: Report only
Files: Attempt to identify files
Switches: <none>


Results of virus scanning:

Files: 2
MBRs: 0
Boot sectors: 0
Objects scanned: 0

Time: 0:00

No viruses or suspicious files/boot sectors were found.
avscan1% md5 message*.html
MD5 (message.html) = d1f0f5dd1f4ebbeebbd61e884ed1669c
MD5 (message2.html) = d7b72f9b8370aa3b132069a878b5b5c8
avscan1%

These are both caught by other scanners but passed by f-prot.  Anyone with
f-prot successfully identify this virus ?

avscan1% f-prot -virlist | grep -i mimail
Mimail.A@mm
JS/Mimail.dropper
avscan1%

I sent email yesterday about this to frisk, but just got a "we will submit
to the lab."  That was before their update so I wonder if they figure they
are covered.

	---Mike
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Mike Tancsa,                          	          tel +1 519 651 3400
Sentex Communications,     			  mike@...tex.net
Providing Internet since 1994                    www.sentex.net
Cambridge, Ontario Canada			  www.sentex.net/mike

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