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Message-ID: <200308041419.h74EJV6b021127@idoru.cybermancer.org>
From: orochford at cybermancer.org (Orochford)
Subject: Microsoft win2003server phone home
Hello,
the subject has been discussed thoroughly for years, inclusing in court
rooms and legal disputes.
And if you use (and pay) for a product, you should be aware of the darn
license agreement.
Otherwise, don'tbe surprised if you one day sign away your kidney and first
born to B.Gates.
RTFM
oliver rochford
--------- Original Message --------
From: Gaurav Kumar <gaurav@...labs.com>
To: manohar singh <seclistaddress@...oo.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Microsoft win2003server phone home
Date: 04/08/03 09:44
>
> jeeesus,
>
> where's the manager? someone throw these kiddies out
> puhleese.
>
> u call me script kiddie, may i know if u r not?
> r u master of internet securitiy technologies?
> i hope one learns by studying some material and then try of its own. did
all
> the knowledge u have was acquired automatically?probably not.
>
> will you read the license agreement to the part where
> it talks about the update ?
>
> the agreement says the info will be sent to microsoft. r u sure?
> how does it establish identity without using any digital certificate.
>
> we are here to learn and grow. not to fight.
>
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> Gaurav Kumar
> Chief Information Security Analyst
>
> E2 Labs Information Security Pvt. Ltd.
> Road no. 3 , Banjara Hills
> Hyderbad-34
> AP
> India
>
> gaurav@...labs.com
> www.e2-labs.com
>
> Phone(s)-
> Mobile +91 40 31068650
> Tele/Fax +91 40 23555942 (ext-24)
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "manohar singh" <seclistaddress@...oo.com>
> To: "Gaurav Kumar" <gaurav@...labs.com>
> Cc: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 5:52 PM
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Microsoft win2003server phone home
>
>
> jeeesus,
>
> where's the manager? someone throw these kiddies out
> puhleese.
>
> will you read the license agreement to the part where
> it talks about the update ?
>
> !
>
> Gaurav Kumar <gaurav@...labs.com> wrote: 1. Is this
> behavior normal for a windows server installation ?
> i think that this behavour is normal bcoz as u analyse
> that session u will get to know that server is trying
> to update something
>
> 2. Could this behavior be considered as a violation
> of privacy ?
> this surely a case of violation of privacy as it is
> not mentioned in agreement. go ahead, sue micro$oft.
>
> 3. Could it be considered as a security risk to let
> a newly installed server,
> request information from an arbitrary server that I
> have no control over ?
> yes its a security risk bcoz it is not even using pki
> to establish identity of the server.
>
>
> Gaurav Kumar
>
> Chief Information Security Analyst
> E2 Labs Information Security Pvt. Ltd.
> Hyderbad-34
> AP
> India
>
> Phone(s)-
> Mobile +91 40 31068650
> Tele/Fax +91 40 23555942 (ext-24)
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "gyrniff"
> <b240503@...niff.dk>
> To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 3:27 PM
> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Microsoft win2003server
> phone home
>
>
>
> > After acquiring and installing a copy of 'Windows
> Server 2003 Standard Edition
> > 180-Day Evaluation' I walked through the 'role
> wizard', used the 'custom
> > role config' and selected everything ;-)
> > After reboot the server made two POST request to
> microsoft controlled
> > webserveres without any notification. One request to
> activex.micrisoft.com
> > and one to codecs.microsoft.com, the data posted to
> the two severs was the
> > same. (See the request and responds below.)
> >
> > I can find no information in the license agreement
> about giving away
> > 'information' behind my back.
> >
> > My question:
> > 1. Is this behavior normal for a windows server
> installation ?
> > 2. Could this behavior be considered as a violation
> of privacy ?
> > 3. Could it be considered as a security risk to let
> a newly installed server,
> > request information from an arbitrary server that I
> have no control over ?
> >
> > ****
> >
> > Posted data to activex.microsoft.com:
> > POST /objects/ocget.dll HTTP/1.1
> > Accept: application/x-cabinet-win32-x86,
> application/x-pe-win32-x86,
> > application/octet-stream, application/x-setupscript,
> */*
> > Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
> > Accept-Language: da
> > Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
> > User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0;
> Windows NT 5.2; .NET CLR
> > 1.1.4322)
> > Host: activex.microsoft.com
> > Content-Length: 44
> > Connection: Keep-Alive
> > Cache-Control: no-cache
> >
> > CLSID={FC7D9E02-3F9E-11D3-93C0-00C04F72DAF7}
> >
> > The reply:
> > HTTP/1.1 404 Object Not Found
> > Server: Microsoft-IIS/5.0
> > Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 09:48:38 GMT
> > Connection: close
> > Content-Type: text/html
> > Content-Length: 102
> >
> >
<html><head><title>Error</title></head><body>The
> system cannot find the file
> > specified. </body></html>
> >
> > ***
> >
> > Postede data to codecs.microsoft.com
> > POST /isapi/ocget.dll HTTP/1.1
> > Accept: application/x-cabinet-win32-x86,
> application/x-pe-win32-x86,
> > application/octet-stream, application/x-setupscript,
> */*
> > Content-Type: application/x-www-form-urlencoded
> > Accept-Language: da
> > Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate
> > User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0;
> Windows NT 5.2; .NET CLR
> > 1.1.4322)
> > Host: codecs.microsoft.com
> > Content-Length: 44
> > Connection: Keep-Alive
> > Cache-Control: no-cache
> >
> > CLSID={FC7D9E02-3F9E-11D3-93C0-00C04F72DAF7}
> >
> > And the reply:
> > HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found
> > Connection: close
> > Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2003 09:47:54 GMT
> > Server: Microsoft-IIS/6.0
> > P3P:
> policyref="http://www.microsoft.com/w3c/p3p.xml"
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> >
> >
> > /Gyrniff
> >
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