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Message-ID: <20030814171643.92368.qmail@web13905.mail.yahoo.com>
From: scosol at yahoo.com (Nathan Seven)
Subject: Firewalls

Agreed- though there still are plenty of good uses for
app-level firewalls.
I use and recommend Kerio as well here at work.
It's very useful for things like blocking Realplayer's
phone-home functionality, etc etc :)

--- CHeeKY <cheekypeople@...33.com> wrote:
> why are you buying application layer firewalls? dont
> as a security person
> you learn anything?
> 
> get hold of a spare 386, and make a netbsd, ipcop,
> smoothwall, linux based
> firewall, alot of fun and a shit load better, I will
> personally stick with
> my checkpoint box, but please please start taking ya
> firewalls of your own
> machines, they deserve a place of their own, ON
> THEIR OWN BOX, Tiny and the
> rest have all been breached with deep packet
> inspections through nemesis, at
> the end of the day, its still Layer 7


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