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Message-ID: <0b7801c36291$63ef8f50$8405a8c0@bogus.net> From: codex at bogus.net (Codex) Subject: Microsoft urging users to buy Harware Firewalls > My only question is why aren't NAT routers built into all cable and DSL > modems. because isp's are still waiting/hoping to cash in on the voip "boom"? (that, and a mirrion other reasons -- i for one want as much control as i can over the link to my provider.) as we all know, voip doesn't work terribly well behind nat. -cdx