full-disclosure - east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]

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Message-ID: <3F3D6A0C.5080500@snosoft.com>
From: simon at snosoft.com (-SIMON-)
Subject: east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]

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Gml,
    You might want to re-consider that statment.  There are many obvious 
critical "things" connected to the internet that affect our lives.  The 
lack of realization of that is why security is such a big issue.  "Ohh 
that won't affect me"...  "where'd my bank account go?"

Ignorance is bliss until someone with knowledge takes advantage of you.


gml wrote:

>I can't image that anything really important would be connected to the
>internet.  Then again who knows right.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
>[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of
>RMcElroy@....com
>Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:41 PM
>To: scheidell@...nap.net; tetsujin@...cast.net
>Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
>Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]
>
>At least on the west coast they do not, I think the requirements of the
>systems are way out of Microsoft's range. Lot's and Lot's of Unix
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:scheidell@...nap.net] 
>Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:36 AM
>To: tetsujin
>Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
>Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]
>
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>>Paller said it is "highly unlikely" that the process control computers
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>>behind critical infrastructure like power in the United States would 
>>run on the Windows operating system.
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>well, ONTARIO HYDRO does seem to have SOME windoes boxes.. at least here
>is one that appears to have been infected with slammer:
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>http://www.hackertrap.net/LID.pl?IID=39335068
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>(Aug 9th through the 12th?)
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