full-disclosure - east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]

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Message-ID: <C778D0C8BC20D5119B6700D0B7B617A05C3DF2@DAYTONA>
From: ALudwig at Calfingroup.com (Andre Ludwig)
Subject: east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]

I just confirmed that a major utility in Northern CA uses SCADA systems
based off of NT4. And yes the systems in question do use RPC as a means of
communication, as well as frame relays, modems and private trunks.  

Andre Ludwig, CISSP

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From: -SIMON- [mailto:simon@...soft.com]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 4:32 PM
To: RMcElroy@....com
Cc: scheidell@...nap.net; tetsujin@...cast.net;
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Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]


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What OS would you say that they use?


RMcElroy@....com wrote:

>At least on the west coast they do not, I think the requirements of the
>systems are way out of Microsoft's range. Lot's and Lot's of Unix
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Michael Scheidell [mailto:scheidell@...nap.net] 
>Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:36 AM
>To: tetsujin
>Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
>Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] east coast powergrid / SCADA [OT?]
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>>Paller said it is "highly unlikely" that the process control computers
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>>behind critical infrastructure like power in the United States would 
>>run on the Windows operating system.
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>well, ONTARIO HYDRO does seem to have SOME windoes boxes.. at least here
>is one that appears to have been infected with slammer:
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>http://www.hackertrap.net/LID.pl?IID=39335068
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>(Aug 9th through the 12th?)
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