full-disclosure - Administrivia: Binary Executables w/o Source

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Message-ID: <008c01c365ef$1ae96b80$21f4ac41@k4h8f5>
From: anthony at safferconsulting.com (Anthony Saffer)
Subject: Administrivia: Binary Executables w/o Source

I belong to a few security groups that develop "fixer" patches for various
vunerabilities that hit the net. In those groups, because running a black
box binary is so dangerous, we only are allowed to post patch source. Most
people can get their hands on a free compiler and we provide explicit
instructions on how to compile the patches. It works very well and we don't
have to worry about people sending binaries...

Just My $0.02...

Anthony Saffer
SCS Consulting Services
www.safferconsulting.com


----- Original Message -----
From: Drew Copley <dcopley@...e.com>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 3:26 PM
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Administrivia: Binary Executables w/o Source


> If anybody is stupid enough to run a binary file from here they deserve
> any negative consequences which may result from that.
>
> Okay, I know other people are thinking that because it is just so true.
>
> This said, someone sent a copy of this lastest fixer msblast variant. I
> appreciated that. But, proper netiquette says to not send binaries nor
> pictures to internet lists (newsgroups or mailing lists). It is best to
> send by url, such urls are very valuable.
>
> (Personally, I have never cared about binaries nor pictures being sent
> as long as their size were small... It is just html email which I hate.)
>
> Just some food for thought from a contrary viewpoint.
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> > [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of
> > S . f . Stover
> > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:06 AM
> > To: Len Rose
> > Cc: Raj Mathur; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> > Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Administrivia: Binary
> > Executables w/o Source
> >
> >
> > On 18 Aug 03 03:40:34PM Len Rose[len@...sys.com] wrote:
> > : My message was not about the size ofd
> > : the file but rather about the sheer useless re-transmission
> > : of a binary (any executable) that no one in their right mind
> > : would actually run which is why I suggested that source code
> > : should be included next time.
> >
> > Would that really matter though?  I mean, how would I know
> > that the binary included came from the attached source?
> >
> > Plus, I do have quarantined machines I blow away and rebuild
> > regularly that I don't mind putting unknown binaries on from
> > time to time.  Any my mileage definitely does vary  ;-)
> >
> > Just my 0.02.  I figure there's no list like FD for unknown
> > binaries...
> >
> > --
> > attica@...ckheap.org
> > GPG Key ID: 0xF8F859D0
> > http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xF8F859D0&op=index
>
>
> "There is no such thing as right and wrong, there's just popular
> opinion." -Jeffrey Goines
>
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