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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.43.0308191737440.3617-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
From: dufresne at winternet.com (Ron DuFresne)
Subject: [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by W32Blaster]
 (fwd)

On Tue, 19 Aug 2003, Schmehl, Paul L wrote:

> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Bryan K. Watson [mailto:bwatson@...Tracers.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 3:46 AM
> > To: 'Byron Copeland'; 'Ron DuFresne'; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> > Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by
> > W32Blaster] (fwd)
> >
> >
> > > That is a load of B.S. if I ever heard it.
> >
> > I can attest to the fact that this is indeed.... NOT BS...
> >
> > True, there are a bunch of MCSE's that are on top of
> > things....however, there are way too many scam artists with
> > MCSE's who only give a damn about getting a bigger consulting
> > fee than securing their customer's networks.
>
> And of course there isn't a single *nix consultant around who isn't
> worth his/her weight in gold and doing an absolutely fabulous job......
>
> Shitty people come in all shapes and sizes and infest every profession.
> They're as unavoidable as air.

Kinda feeling like all fingers point home huh?

Why blame the poor MCSE's when one should perhaps fault the vendor again,
for not only failing to provide a viable patching system that does not
overburden these folks, but also undertrains them in perperation for the
world of hurt they are about to be employed in.

There, that should satisfy all those  indignant MCSE's that try to do the
right thing, but are swamped with the rate of and poor quality of patches
they have to deal with.


Thanks,

Ron DuFresne
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