full-disclosure - more on securing php

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Message-ID: <HPEOIOJANKMPPBGKBPHBKEHDCEAA.zorkshin@tampabay.rr.com>
From: zorkshin at tampabay.rr.com (Justin Shin)
Subject: more on securing php

Hi guys (sorry for the late response but I'm not really supposed to worry about this stuff at work ya know :) --

Thanks for all your responses. I already knew he shouldn;t be running apache as root, I have told him before to run apache as a seperate user (eg. "apache") but he has yet to fix this.

Once again, the safe_mode on PHP works __directly with the *nix kernel__ , meaning that it makes sure that resources accessed are owned by the currentuser. However, if PHP is called by apache, which runs as root, and if root owns everything ... I think ya get the picture. :) That was my dillema before.

Now about IIS. I have told him to run *nix but he is stubborn as a, umm, donkey when it comes to this stuff. He refuses to touch it, so I told him apache on Windows. I simply do not *trust* IIS as a stable and secure webserver. At least apache is secure (to a certain degree).

Also, I have thought maybe he could crate a seperate 2k3 user account per each new user, but then I don't know if safe_mode works with Windows user accounts.

So, basically, he shouldn't really be running apache on windows w/ php at all, right?

Thanks

-- Justin