full-disclosure - JAP back doored

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Message-ID: <198286338903.20030821225441@bebold.de>
From: mail at bebold.de (Bernhard Seibold)
Subject: JAP back doored

Hi all,

I totally agree on that.

And by the way you should think about two things:

1) The site they're logging provides illegal content. AFAIK it's
child-pornography. As long as I can be sure that only sites with
illegal content get logged I can trust that service.

2) If they had resisted, the court would have shut down the server.

Thursday, August 21, 2003, 9:23:04 PM, you wrote:

FW> "Drew Copley" <dcopley@...e.com> writes:

>> Why is the state of Germany trojanizing applications which may be
>> run by anyone on the planet?

FW> Why is the U.S. government interfering with the publication of
FW> security advisories if the corresponding software is being run
FW> throughout the world?

FW> The German government funds the AN.ON project, but allowed for a great
FW> deal of independence.  Naturally, this independence does not extend to
FW> the law, thanks to separation of powers.  Now a judge has forced the
FW> operators to implement a surveillance interface, which is possible
FW> because of a design weakness.  But that's just the beginning of the
FW> legal process.  The project has announced that it plans to fight, but
FW> within the legal system.

>> How is it they believe they have a right to trojanize someone
>> outside of Germany?

FW> Nobody forces you to use the German service if you don't trust the
FW> operators or (thanks to recent events) German law enforcement.

>> This is blatantly illegal in just about every country outside of
>> Germany.  Literally. 

FW> No, it isn't.  Most countries with communication infrastructure have
FW> laws that regulate law enforcement access.  This is not a "stupid
FW> local law" issue.

FW> Your country is eavesdropping foreign communication as well.

>> Or, do they believe they are superior to other countries, and they may
>> invade at will?

FW> Please check the facts.  Germany doesn't an operate eavesdropping base
FW> in the U.S., but the U.S. do in Germany.

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Best regards,
 Bernhard                            mailto:mail@...old.de