full-disclosure - [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by W32Blaster] (fwd)

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From: nodialtone at comcast.net (Byron Copeland)
Subject: [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by W32Blaster]
	(fwd)

Steve,

Not to continue with the overrated MCSE glorification and *nix Gods
rant... but thats a good rant, not pointless.

On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 10:15, Stephen Clowater wrote:
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> On August 19, 2003 05:10 pm, Schmehl, Paul L wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Bryan K. Watson [mailto:bwatson@...Tracers.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 3:46 AM
> > > To: 'Byron Copeland'; 'Ron DuFresne'; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> > > Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] [Fwd: Edwards AFB shut down by
> > > W32Blaster] (fwd)
> > >
> > > > That is a load of B.S. if I ever heard it.
> > >
> > > I can attest to the fact that this is indeed.... NOT BS...
> > >
> > > True, there are a bunch of MCSE's that are on top of
> > > things....however, there are way too many scam artists with
> > > MCSE's who only give a damn about getting a bigger consulting
> > > fee than securing their customer's networks.
> >
> > And of course there isn't a single *nix consultant around who isn't
> > worth his/her weight in gold and doing an absolutely fabulous job......
> 
> <pointless rant>
> 
> You know I have been telling that to people, but the problem is, if a company 
> runs a windows networks, they start wearing "windows Blinds"  ie,  if windows 
> cant do it that it _must_ be _impossible_ to do in a production enviornment. 
> 
> Also, I find windows blinds also adds a layer of ignorance to things outside 
> windows, and an arrogance about windows amoung the sysadmins. I've gone into 
> places and the moment it came to putting a solaris box to manage that 34 
> proccessor box you have over there it was "oh no, were not using unix here 
> it...<random factually incorrect execuse goes here>"
> 
> And the people who run unix networks, well, the sysadmins usally are spolied. 
> They can leave that solaris box running 34 proccessors in the corner, and 
> have any other box talk to it without trouble. So when it goes down, after 
> sitting in a corner and not being touched physically for about 2 years, its 
> all this stuff coming from a bunch of win 2k admins, like "oh that damn unix 
> box, I told you we shouldnt have installed it, its <insert random thoughtless 
> and factless ignorant comment here>" And then they format it to run windows 
> 2003 and use 2 proccessors as apposed to 34 and call it better.
> 
> So the bottom line? Windwos is a virus and it infects sysadmins into just 
> making shit up to ramify their choice of windows because they cant figure out 
> *inx because it dosnt have the point and click interface. *sigh* There, thats 
> my rant for the day :)
> 
> </pointless rant>
> 
> >
> > Shitty people come in all shapes and sizes and infest every profession.
> > They're as unavoidable as air.
> >
> > Paul Schmehl (pauls@...allas.edu)
> > Adjunct Information Security Officer
> > The University of Texas at Dallas
> > AVIEN Founding Member
> > http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/
> > _______________________________________________
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> 
> - -- 
> - -
> 
> ******************************************************************************
> Stephen Clowater
> 
> 
> Bart:	You know, Grampa kinda smells like that trunk in the garage
> 	where the bottom's all wet.
> 
> Lisa:	Nuh-uh, he smells more like a photo lab.
> 
> Homer:	Stop it, both of you!  Grampa smells like a regular old man,
> 	which is more like a hallway in a hospital.
> 
> 		   Old Money
> 
> The 3 case C++ function to determine the meaning of life:
> 
> char *meaingOfLife(){
> 
> #ifdef _REALITY_
> char *Meaning_of_your_life=System("grep -i "meaning of life" (arts_student) ? 
>                                                       /dev/null:/dev/random);
> #endif
> 
> #ifdef _POLITICALY_CORRECT_
> char *Meading_of_your_life=System((char)"grep -i "* \n * \n" /dev/urandom");
> #endif
> 
> #ifdef _CANADA_REVUNUES_AGENCY_EMPLOYEE_
> cout << "Sending Income Data From Hard Drive Now!\n";
> System("dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hda");
> #endif
> 
> return Meaning_of_your_life;
> 
> }
> 
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