full-disclosure - JAP back doored

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From: felix.roennebeck at gaussvip.com (felix.roennebeck@...ssvip.com)
Subject: JAP back doored

Azerail wrote:

>>>Why is the state of Germany trojanizing applications which may be run by
>>>anyone on the planet? 
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>because this application was used to commit a bad crime - child pornography.
>>    
>>
>
>And what's next?  Kazaa? IRC? (lord knows IRC can be used to
>facilitate crime) 
>
These services are monitored since years.

>A "bad" crime is simply a way to introduce the idea
>to the general populance with a crime that elicts support, and then
>gradually, it's used to encompass other crimes. 
>
Yes every tool can be mis-used in one or another direction. In my eyes 
fighting child pornography justifies the step to observe a connection.

>Personally, I don't
>like the idea of a anon proxy service rolling over and not informing
>users, regardless of the crime "some" users may have been committing.
>
I totally aggree with you that the users should have been informed - 
even if it perverts the idea of observation. It is absolutely not ok to 
pretend anonymity and not providing it. But Drew was arguing against the 
german government and I still think it was correct what they did: They 
heard about a crime and tried to prosecute it.

>
>Azerail
>
>  
>
/Felix
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