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Message-ID: <3F4610C7.3050509@gaussvip.com> From: felix.roennebeck at gaussvip.com (felix.roennebeck@...ssvip.com) Subject: JAP back doored Azerail wrote: >>>Why is the state of Germany trojanizing applications which may be run by >>>anyone on the planet? >>> >>> >>> >>because this application was used to commit a bad crime - child pornography. >> >> > >And what's next? Kazaa? IRC? (lord knows IRC can be used to >facilitate crime) > These services are monitored since years. >A "bad" crime is simply a way to introduce the idea >to the general populance with a crime that elicts support, and then >gradually, it's used to encompass other crimes. > Yes every tool can be mis-used in one or another direction. In my eyes fighting child pornography justifies the step to observe a connection. >Personally, I don't >like the idea of a anon proxy service rolling over and not informing >users, regardless of the crime "some" users may have been committing. > I totally aggree with you that the users should have been informed - even if it perverts the idea of observation. It is absolutely not ok to pretend anonymity and not providing it. But Drew was arguing against the german government and I still think it was correct what they did: They heard about a crime and tried to prosecute it. > >Azerail > > > /Felix -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/attachments/20030822/3b7c4527/attachment.html
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