full-disclosure - JAP back doored

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Message-ID: <3F49CDC2.5030205@gaussvip.com>
From: felix.roennebeck at gaussvip.com (felix.roennebeck@...ssvip.com)
Subject: JAP back doored


>>Yes every tool can be mis-used in one or another direction. In my eyes 
>>fighting child pornography justifies the step to observe a connection.
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>It's just that child pornography is starting to be used as a blanket
>crime which is used to justify increased goverment and police
>survelllience, much like terrorism.  Of course, I don't want anyone
>who is guilty of a crime against children to get away with it, but I
>also don't want my natural feelings regarding the well-being of
>children to be used to monitor otherwise legal activies.  Citizens
>possessing the means to communicate or gather information privately
>is, of course, of great interest to most authories, IMO.
>
Now I think we are pretty close to a dead lock because any legal 
activity is supposed not to be watched but you cannot know wether 
someting is legal without watching it. It is pretty obvious that 
criminals have a special interest in anonymity. In this case care must 
be taken that the data gathered by the government is used exclusively to 
prosecute the suspected criminal.

>>I totally aggree with you that the users should have been informed - 
>>even if it perverts the idea of observation. It is absolutely not ok to 
>>pretend anonymity and not providing it. But Drew was arguing against the 
>>german government and I still think it was correct what they did: They 
>>heard about a crime and tried to prosecute it.
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>>
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>True, it's just how they tried that concerns me.  At any rate, this
>should be a leason to everyone, don't trust things outside of your
>total control.
>
ACK

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>Azerail
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>

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Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen / with kind regards


Felix Roennebeck

Senior System Administrator

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