full-disclosure - Authorities eye MSBlaster suspect

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Message-ID: <cb4a818d2df36507c3638eb46b089ee5@venom600.org>
From: lists at venom600.org (Ben Nelson)
Subject: Authorities eye MSBlaster suspect

You need to keep in mind that affected != infected.  Many of us admins who
don't even administrate a single windows box were affected by amount of
bandwidth consumed by people who were infected.  This thing effectively
created a denial of service on many networks and any host trying to use
that network (be it an infected windows box or one of my hundreds of unix
boxes) was, at the very least, significantly slowed down.

--Ben

On August 29, 10:18 am "morning_wood" <se_cur_ity@...mail.com> wrote:
> if the worm was active in anticipation of a patch that intoduced a new
> exploit vector and it took advantage of that, is'nt the vendor (
> microsoft ) to blame then? As well there was plenty of advanced warning
> on this exploit long before msblast was an issue. It seems to me that it
> is each admins responsiblity, if they were affected ( infected ) not the
> coder. if this were the case the LastStage(of)Delerium would be the
> blamed party for developing and releasing the exploit, but alas.. they
> are not of USA orgin. SUE LITIGATE BLAME PROCECUTE
>
> as long as the general public remains uneducated ( and many Fortune500
> admins) we will continue
> to see this type of action against coders for blame, not the people
> actualy responsible for allowing
> thier infrastructure to become targets in the first place. im sure this
> ignorance is a byproduct of
> the weak mind of most Americans as they are in a constant state to blame
> other for thier own
> problems, this can be seen everywhere in todays American society...
> commonly refered as to the "poor me" syndrome..
> Q. why did you murder the victim?
> A. my father never told me he loved me
> ( real answer - you pulled the triger )
>
> Q. why was my network compromised?
> A. because of someone else
> ( real answer - you suck at internet )
>
>
> muh 2 bytes,
> morning_wood
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Charles Ballowe" <hangman-fulldisclosure@...elballs.org>
> To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 8:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Authorities eye MSBlaster suspect
>
>
> >  On Fri, Aug 29, 2003 at 12:14:51PM -0000, 00005702@...id.com wrote:
> > >
> > >  And this kid is dumb enough be be living in the U.S.A. man, when are
> > >  people going to learn, next we will here that he has been charged
> > >  with every penny the worm caused and will be sentence under the new
> > >  and ever improving Terrorist act.
> > >
> >  Interesting -- the net cost of the worm is actually a net $0.00. For
> >  every penny that a company chalks up as a cost to the worm, some
> >  other company must be chalking up the cost as a profit from the worm.
> >
> >  -Charlie
> >
> >  _______________________________________________
> >  Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
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> >
>
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