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Message-ID: <200308300453.h7U4rPXW026116@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu)
Subject: Lets discuss, Firewalls... 

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 22:33:06 CDT, "Mike @ Suzzal.net" <mike@...zal.net>  said:

> I can surf the web from the box so it is fine.

> Can you get to it? How?

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-032.asp

You got IE or Outlook on that box?

(And no, you can't whine "that's not fair, that's not what I asked" - remember that
the bad guys aren't going to play fair either).

Incidentally, the *entire* security benefit of NAT is that it usually
*accidentally* acts as a firewall due to its design (the "no 1 to 1 NATing").
It won't usually forward packets for a port it doesn't know about - which
basically means it's acting as a firewall with a default deny policy.

And yes, you need a firewall as well - if only to protect yourself from
screw-ups like accidentally enabling 1-to-1 NAT (or if some 1337 haxor
finds a way to enable it from the outside interface).

Security in depth.  Belt AND suspenders.
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