From: edwin at link.net.id (SPAM)
Subject: Re: [tool] the new p0f 2.0.1 is now out

If you read the first thread it says that it does have an option to resolve
host name... but with the word "passive mode" it'd be very unlikely an
attacker would enable that..

Ed

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Matt Barrie" <matt.barrie@...sorynetworks.com>
To: "'Andreas Gietl'" <a.gietl@...dmin.de>
Cc: <full-disclosure@...sys.com>
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 4:03 AM
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Re: [tool] the new p0f 2.0.1 is now out


> Does it do DNS resolution on logfiles? If so, this may be a way of
> detecting.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of Andreas
> Gietl
> Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:43 PM
> To: thetic; Michal Zalewski; honeypots@...urityfocus.com;
> pen-test@...urityfocus.com; focus-ids@...urityfocus.com;
> sectools@...urityfocus.com
> Cc: incidents@...urityfocus.com; bugtraq@...urityfocus.com;
> full-disclosure@...sys.com
> Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: [tool] the new p0f 2.0.1 is now out
>
> On Thursday 04 September 2003 20:19, thetic wrote:
>
> it i a passive scan-tool! you can't detect the scans because there are
> no
> packets going to you network.
>
> > Question concerning the the POF, how can we setup a IDS to detect a
> POF
> > scan.
> >
> > umer
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michal Zalewski" <lcamtuf@...ttot.org>
> > To: <honeypots@...urityfocus.com>; <pen-test@...urityfocus.com>;
> > <focus-ids@...urityfocus.com>; <sectools@...urityfocus.com>
> > Cc: <incidents@...urityfocus.com>; <bugtraq@...urityfocus.com>;
> > <full-disclosure@...sys.com>
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:21 PM
> > Subject: [tool] the new p0f 2.0.1 is now out
> >
> > > I am proud to announce the new stable version of p0f, 2.0.1, a
> complete
> > > rewrite of the original open-source tool released back in 2000, and
> a
> > > major step for the utility.
> > >
> > > I apologize for posting to all the forums, and leave it to the
> moderators
> > > to accept or drop this post - but I believe the tool is probably of
> some
> > > interest to the IDS / honeypot / pen-test / general ITSec audiences,
> and
> > > more appropriate forums are largely defunct.
> > >
> > > ------------
> > > What is p0f?
> > > ------------
> > >
> > >    P0f v2 is a versatile passive OS fingerprinting tool. P0f can
> identify
> > >    the system on machines that connect to your box, machines you
> connect
> > >    to, and even machines that merely go thru or near your box. All
> this
> > >    even if the device is behind a fascist packet firewall.
> > >
> > >    P0f will also detect what the remote system is hooked up to (be
> it
> > >    Ethernet, DSL, OC3, or avian carriers), how far it is located,
> what's
> > >    its uptime, and will often detect NAT, firewall presence, and
> even
> > >    the name of the other guy's ISP - all this without sending a
> single
> > >    packet.
> > >
> > > What do you need it for?
> > > ------------------------
> > >
> > >    P0f is quite useful for gathering all kinds of profiling
> information
> > >    about your users, customers or attackers (IDS, honeypot,
> firewall),
> > >    tech espionage (laugh...), active or passive policy enforcement
> > >    (restricting access for certain systems or otherwise handling
> them
> > >    differently), content optimization, pen-testing, thru-firewall
> > >    fingerprinting... plus all the tasks active fingerprinting is
> suitable
> > >    for. And, of course, it has a high coolness factor, even if you
> are
> > >    not a sysadmin.
> > >
> > > -----------
> > > What's new?
> > > -----------
> > >
> > >   Almost everything. Please upgrade and encourage your vendor to
> > >   update his packages. P0f v2 is far superior to the old code
> > >   and its clones (such as the Ettercap passive OS fingerprinting
> > >   functionality, based on the p0f v1 concepts). It is faster,
> > >   more secure, reliable, precise, accurate, feature-loaded
> > >   (including easy service integration). It also introduces many
> > >   new metrics, some of them "invented" for p0f v2.
> > >
> > >   NEW CORE CHECKS:
> > >
> > >     - Option layout and count check,
> > >     - EOL presence and trailing data [*],
> > >     - Unrecognized options handling (TTCP, etc),
> > >     - WSS to MSS/MTU correlation checks [*],
> > >     - Zero timestamp check,
> > >     - Non-zero ACK in initial SYN [*],
> > >     - Non-zero "unused" TCP fields [*],
> > >     - Non-zero urgent pointer in SYN [*],
> > >     - Non-zero second timestamp [*],
> > >     - Zero IP ID in initial packet,
> > >     - Unusual auxilinary flags,
> > >     - Data payload in control packets [*],
> > >     - Non-empty IP options.
> > >
> > >     [*] Metrics "invented" for p0f, as far as I know. Other metrics
> > >     were discussed before, although usually not implemented
> anywhere.
> > >
> > >   IMPROVEMENTS:
> > >
> > >     - Major performance improvements - no more runtime signature
> parsing,
> > >       added BPF pre-filtering, signature hash lookups - to make p0f
> >
> > suitable
> >
> > >       for high-throughput devices,
> > >
> > >     - Modulo and wildcard operators for certain TCP/IP parameters to
> make
> > >       it easier to come up with generic last chance signatures for
> > >       systems that tweak settings notoriously (think Windows),
> > >
> > >     - Auto-detection of DF-zeroing firewalls,
> > >
> > >     - Auto-detection of MSS-tweaking NAT and router devices,
> > >
> > >     - Media type detection based on MSS, with a database of common
> > >       link types,
> > >
> > >     - Origin network detection based on unusual ToS / precedence
> bits,
> > >
> > >     - Ability to detect and skip ECN option when examining flags,
> > >
> > >     - Better fingerprint file structure and contents - all
> fingerprints
> > >       are rigorously reviewed before being added.
> > >
> > >     - Generic last-chance signatures to cover general OS
> characteristics,
> > >
> > >     - Query mode to enable easy integration with third party
> software -
> > >       p0f caches recent fingerprints and answer queries for src-dst
> > >       combinations on a local stream socket in a easy to parse
> > >       form,
> > >
> > >     - Usability features: greppable output option, daemon mode, host
> > >       name resolution option, promiscuous mode switch, built-in
> signature
> > >       collision detector, ToS reporting, etc,
> > >
> > >     - "Officially unsupported" SYN+ACK fingerprinting mode for
> silent
> > >       identifications of systems you connect to the usual way (web
> > >       browser, MTA),
> > >
> > >     - Fixed WSCALE handling in general, and WSS passing on
> little-endian,
> > >       many other bug-fixes and improvements of the packet parser
> > >       (including some sanity checks).
> > >
> > > --------------------
> > > Download, demo, etc.
> > > --------------------
> > >
> > >   P0f home page is:
> > >   http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/p0f.shtml
> > >
> > >   Download:
> > >   http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/p0f.tgz
> > >
> > >   Contribute / see it in action:
> > >   http://lcamtuf.coredump.cx/p0f-help/
> > >
> > >   P0f is believed to run fine on Windows, Linux, FreeBSD, NetBSD,
> > >   OpenBSD, MacOS X, Solaris and AIX.
> > >
> > >   Please consider contributing to the project if you liked it.
> >
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