full-disclosure - Re: Administrivia: Noise and Politics

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Message-ID: <E19yq0M-0008Py-00@hosts.co.uk>
From: webappsec at technicalinfo.net (webappsec@...hnicalinfo.net)
Subject: Re: Administrivia: Noise and Politics

The funny thing about embedded chips growing more popular, is that most people don't even realise that they may already be monitored.

For example, a company I used to know well used to hire mens suits and sell very high priced suits.  It started with the hire business - if you have several hundred thousand sauits that have to be dry-cleaned, sent, received or whatever every week - you need a mechanism of uniquely identifying the suit.  Since barcodes and other printed forms won't survive too many dry-cleaning trips - they embedded RF readable/scannable chips into every suit... that way you could litterally have a box of suits, throw them through the warehouse scanner door and know what you have.

At the stores, someone came up with the idea of monitoring the suits as they passed through the front and back doors using the same system (since customers could return their suits afterwards to any store they wanted).

Someone bright said, "what about all those really expensive suits? We could track those and find out if theyre being stolen or whatever"... so they started sewing the devices within the suit collars (impossible to see).

Now, whenever someon comes into one of their stores, they get logged - your movements are tracked.  Ever wonder why some sales assistant has come up to you and said that your suit is a couple of years old and time to buy a new one... and even got your name right??

Just to think - this has been going on for over 5 years already in one of the largest high-street retailers.

"Oh, suits you sir"

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-----Original Message-----
From: I.R.van Dongen [mailto:vdongen@...isw.nl] 
Sent: 15 September 2003 10:17
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Administrivia: Noise and Politics

On Sun, 14 Sep 2003 11:41:57 -0700
John Sage <jsage@...chhaven.com> wrote:
> /* snip */
> 
> > Of course the rest of the world is such a shining example of 
> > tolerance and freedom.....
> 
> Sarcasm noted; however, it would be refreshing to see those who are 
> currently running the United States to use the Constitution and the 
> Bill of Rights as a foundation for their behavior...
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Current example:

"The practice of embedding miniscule chips into things is also becoming more commonplace. RFID chips are getting cheaper and cheaper to produce, which means more and more companies will be using them. Think what the world would be like if the tiny ids were embedded in money or even a human being. Scary thoughts, eh?" 

Yes, it is a scary thought, and I believe that this was prophecied approximately 2000 years ago: 

"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name" (Revelation 13:16-17).