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Message-ID: <3F7054D5.6010003@mccammon.org>
From: keith-list at mccammon.org (Keith W. McCammon)
Subject: Just when you thought Macafee stuff was safe!

Any chance this is caused by not excluding the spamkiller program 
directories and/or repositories within the Virusscan engine?

Never used VSO, but this is standard practice for these types of 
"overlapping" tools.  For example, directories associated with mail 
server engines, SMTP gateways, etc. must be excluded from the system 
engine to prevent duplicative scanning, as well as some more serious 
stability issues.

gregh wrote:
> Try this one out for yourself.
> 
> 1) Make sure you have all this set up on an email address that is getting
> lots of the latest virus infected emails.
> 
> 2) Install Macafee Virusscan Online (AKA Macafee VSO).
> 
> 3) Install Macafee's Spamkiller.
> 
> 4) Note they are from the same company.
> 
> 5) Pick up email with Spamkiller while VSO is running in the background.
> 
> 6) Note how, for every infected email, you have to click "continue what I
> was doing" and "No" to "Do you want to scan your computer?"......as said for
> EVERY DAMNED EMAIL!
> 
> 7) At some point during the email being checked by Spamkiller, watch
> Spamkiller stuff up as VSO has deleted log files etc that it decided were
> infected and auto cleaned.
> 
> 8) Now imagine you have a network of around 20 or so users (more, if you
> like) all with Macafee VSO and Spamkiller all going through what you just
> put yourself through and realise that your users probably just use computers
> to do their work on (and dirty web browsing habits - but that's another
> story!) and cant afford the time to keep answering two questions per
> incoming email and then deal with the fact that Spamkiller has crashed or
> otherwise made life difficult. Imagine, if you were that user rushing to
> meet a deadline, what you would do? If you had the ability, you would stop
> Macafee VSO and/or Spamkiller and continue on.
> 
> 9) Now with Spamkiller AND Macafee VSO stopped, imagine what work YOU will
> have very shortly, fixing this.
> 
> 10) Now start to wonder what the Bofh'n heck you chose these two products
> for when they do that and why it is that Macafee hasnt fixed this!
> 
> .....sorta makes you realise why a major epidemic like we are currently
> experiencing works when users are forced to turn off the things meant to
> make their life easier and protect them to some extent, huh?
> 
> Greg.
> 
> 
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