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Message-ID: <1064777650.524.18.camel@localhost>
From: frank at knobbe.us (Frank Knobbe)
Subject: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly

On Sun, 2003-09-28 at 13:04, Michal Zalewski wrote:
> I'd argue... many vendors [...]
> provide integrated corporation-wide mechanisms for enforcing group
> firewalling, access and logging/IDS policies on workstations or groups of
> workstations (and, why not, also servers).
> [...]
> The technology is there. It takes some effort to use it and do it
> correctly, of course.


Michal, 

I think Paul's sentiment was that current efforts are focused on
networks, IP addresses, firewalls, protocols, etc, basically focusing on
the _transport_ of data. I think what we need are better mechanism to
protect the _data_ itself, not just the transport/protocol of it. I'm
not talking about Palladium crap, but more in the direction of more
efficient ACL's, RBAC, and finer system level control. We *can* harden
the chewy insides by applying better controls. (All too often I see
networks with Share and File/Dir permissions being
Everyone-Full_Access...).

Paul, feel free to disagree if I put words in your mouth ;)

Cheers,
Frank

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