full-disclosure - Re: Pudent default security - Was: CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly

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Message-ID: <000001c38739$50ad0db0$0201a8c0@cyber.god>
From: steve.wray at paradise.net.nz (Steve Wray)
Subject: Re: Pudent default security - Was:
 CyberInsecurity: The cost of Monopoly

Ok ok, 'Compulsory windowing operating systems'
as compared with operating systems whose windowing
desktop has a non-windowing layer underneath
(and, in case anyone hadn't noticed, (in the case of Linux at least) 
has perfectly adequate 'office' type desktop).

I know that there are some nice tools for doing remote and bulk admin 
for the latest iterations of the Windows operating system, but from
what I've seen, they lack maturity and often cause more trouble
than they help prevent (DCOM? Am I right? Does anyone leave remote
registry on?)


> From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com 
> [mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of 
> Michal Zalewski
> On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Steve Wray wrote:
> 
> > There is if you don't use a windowing operating system; this is
> > precisely what my team is doing for a very large collection of
> > firewalled boxes, remotely administered and their forewall
> > configurations all maintained and audited by remote control 
> and en masse
> > to boot.
> 
> Oh please... We are talking about desktop environments and LAN "blob
> networks"... and Windows is on almost every desktop. If you work for a
> company that either never used this system, or could easily migrate to
> another system that works better for them, consider yourself 
> very lucky.
> 
> In such a case, you do have powerful remote control, backup, 
> auditing and
> maintenance tools, and it's easy to come up with a solution 
> that suits you
> best. On Windows, however, it takes some serious work to do 
> the same, and
> it's often cheaper to buy a product that has the same 
> functionality and a
> nice GUI.