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From: joel at (Joel R. Helgeson)
Subject: IE Changes / Software Patents

Does anyone care to wager how many security vulnerabilities Microsoft will
create by making this change?

Joel R. Helgeson
Director of Networking & Security Services
SymetriQ Corporation

"Give a man fire, and he'll be warm for a day; set a man on fire, and he'll
be warm for the rest of his life."
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rainer Gerhards" <>
To: <>
Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 2:36 PM
Subject: [Full-Disclosure] IE Changes / Software Patents

> I just found a very interesting effect of software patents:
> As was posted on this list not so far ago, Microsoft lost a case against
> Eolas on some aspects of ActiveX embedding in IE. Their technical
> reaction is a good sample of what software patents cause:
> In short
> - a lot of web pages are broken (even PDF should not work in all cases)
> - the user will become educated to press OK on popups even more often
> - wild workarounds are created (base64 encode the parameter instead
> passing it clear-text) to avoid patented code
> That last point is not written directly in the msdn document, but I read
> between the lines this will be the preferred workaround.
> Isn't that nicely?
> Rainer
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