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Message-ID: <PEECKACPJJIKFEBCDKPFEEALCBAA.mjcarter@ihug.co.nz>
From: mjcarter at ihug.co.nz (Mike)
Subject: Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked

I really wish people would stop comparing software agreements to car
warrantees, cars verses software?? Cars will always win, it's a hardware
thing.

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com
[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com]On Behalf Of Paul Tinsley
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 2:26 PM
To: Joshua Levitsky
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com; Steve
Wray
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Hacker suspect says his PC was hijacked


Do you often buy cars directly from the manufacturer?  I pretty much
assumed you didn't have a car drop shipped to your house and would have
a dealership in the loop...  And I mean it's not like Microsoft doesn't
send out critical patching information, hell I get about 20 notices a
day, just click on that executable they conveniently send in the email
and your set ;)


Joshua Levitsky wrote:

>
> On Oct 12, 2003, at 4:48 PM, Paul Tinsley wrote:
>
>> I have a Honda Accord and a Mini Cooper, prior to that a Mazda and an
>> Oldsmobile and I get/got reminders from all of those companies pretty
>> regularly with coupons, suggested maintenance flyers and the like...
>>
>> I put car manufacturers right behind my dentist in reminders, well
>> lawn care is somewhere in the middle me thinks....
>
>
> That was your particular dealer sending the flyers no? The only notes
> I've ever gotten from Ford were things that my dealer sent. So I've
> always taken it upon myself to make sure I understood when my vehicle
> needed service based on how it is used. That's why I equate CompUSA
> with my Ford dealer. CompUSA could send notes to people they sold
> computers to saying "You need to update x, y, and z. If you bring your
> PC in for service then we will happily update it for you."
>
> -Josh
>
> --
> Joshua Levitsky, CISSP, MCSE
> System Engineer
> AOL Time Warner
> [5957 F27C 9C71 E9A7 274A  0447 C9B9 75A4 9B41 D4D1]
>


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