full-disclosure - JAP Wins Court Victory

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Message-ID: <3F93ECE8.2030709@onryou.com>
From: lists at onryou.com (Cael Abal)
Subject: JAP Wins Court Victory

> Privacy is an important adjunct to security, IMHO. Perhaps the JAP folks
> did not handle their police issues as well as they should have. However
> let us not abandon them or the project yet, unless we can find more
> compelling and better solutions to the problem of the powers that be
> improperly intruding onto the use of the online community.
> 
> Terrorists would not make bombs if they were satisfied with their condition.
> I suspect that JAP and other privacy services would not have been widely
> deployed if there were not the threat of snooping and privacy invasion.
> I vote that we stay focused on the problem, and not bash the solution (well
> not *too* much at least).

You're right, of course -- but I can't help but feel that a weak or
untrustworthy anonymizer/encryption algo is worse than none at all.  I
didn't mean to rag on the JAP guys, they were put in a very awkward
position and I don't know how well I'd have done in their place.

All personal issues aside though, a tool in this industry which can't be
trusted is worthless.

C