full-disclosure - Linux (in)security (Was: Re: Re: No Subject)

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Message-ID: <3E71BE64C6ECD8449CD5A236F700FA968199CE@odcexch.wei.owhc.net>
From: mbassett at omaha.com (Bassett, Mark)
Subject: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: Re: No Subject)

I don't see where this turned into a personal attack vector.  Sure not
every *nix user knows what they are doing, I never said they did.  All
I'm saying is that in my experience, most people who run *nix know what
the hell they are doing.  I'll have you know I patch systems immediately
(after fully testing the effects of the patch in my lab) If you don't
agree with my opinion, that's perfectly fine.  The reason 80% of the
email in full-disclosure goes straight to my trash bin is because of
ridiculous personal attacks from people like you.  Grow up.

Mark Bassett
Network Administrator
World media company
Omaha.com
402-898-2079

-----Original Message-----
From: Darren Reed [mailto:avalon@...igula.anu.edu.au] 
Sent: Friday, October 24, 2003 5:55 PM
To: Bassett, Mark
Cc: Paul Schmehl; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: Linux (in)security (Was: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Re: No
Subject)

In some mail from Bassett, Mark, sie said:
> 
> I think something we are also forgetting is that statistically *nix
> users are people who are computer geeks.  Average joe #1 buys his pc
> from Best buy pre-loaded with windows XP and has no clue how to
install
> it.  Currently vendor pre-loaded *nix machines aren't very popular,
> which means in order to have linux on your machine, you must
> download/purchase it and load it yourself.  Most people don't want to
> mess with the hassle of the whole thing, aside from the fact that it
> doesn't play new game #1313413.  All this means is that the *typical*
> *nix user knows what they are doing and therefore knows to keep the
> machine updated. 

Cripes, just you far down in the sand do some of you have your head ?

If someone discovers a new hole in say IIS plus apache/sendmail, and
writes a worm/DoS that takes advantage of it, properly, you won't know
about it until 'every' host on the 'net is infected or it stops.

Darren

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