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From: rmassa at unixboxen.net (Richard Massa)
Subject: Fw: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning

Mmm... slackware... working on an x86_64 port as we speak :)

On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 06:55:19PM -0700, Michael Gale wrote:
> 
> 
> Ya - well - your opinions of other distro's just goes to show why you were using RH.
> 
> RH is, oh wait - was linux's version of windows, a pain in the a$$. People who started off on RH usually never learned anything and are stuck with the same problems as windows has except for less crashing. 
> 
> Modifying things is a pain because there are 50 millions different places that RH keeps the data and you can't do anything from the console so you get stuck using the GUI they provide. 
> 
> And please RPM'S !!!!! Should I just provide you with a windows install shield :)
> 
> Slackware is at version 9.1 thank you :) and in my opinion the best linux distro out there for server class machines, I feel it is better then freeBSD :)
> 
> It is also a great desktop OS -- it is just a "not out of the box" desktop - x-windows running machine.
> 
> Suse and Mandrake make fairly decent out of the box x running desktop machines.
> 
> But this is the whole point on using Linux - control and freedom. You get to do what ever you want, how ever you want with YOUR PC !!!.
> 
> I good luck to the RH company -- I hope you crash and burn. To all the RH users. Time to RTFM, stop trying to be linux "power user" and use a real distro. Hell - go and dw OpenBSD and start there !!! Is it like driving a car -- you do not start with the Porsche, you work your way up to it.
> 
> Michael
> 
> On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:22:30 -0500
> "Jonathan A. Zdziarski" <jonathan@...learelephant.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 2003-11-03 at 14:11, Tim Groninga wrote:
> > > Got the same f-you-gram today - already figuring out what distro to
> > > fall back to but 99% of my experience has been on Redhat. No time to
> > > try them all....so FreeBSD/SuSE/Mandrake - what are your opinions of
> > > each? Flexiblity, ease of use, ease of migration, security etc. 
> > 
> > I would love to see the open source community pull together and create a
> > better "user-friendly" Linux distribution to replace RedHat.  So far all
> > of the alternatives I've looked at, while not bad, are quite frankly not
> > impressive enough to capture any desktop user market space away from
> > Microsoft...which is what I feel is the most important contribution
> > RedHat made to Linux prior to turning into a bunch of selfish
> > blood-sucking misers.  
> > 
> > To answer your question:
> > 
> > Debian: 8 CDs of useless or outdated software, 2.2 kernel install,
> > poorly designed install tool
> > 
> > Slackware: What version are we at?
> > 
> > Mandrake: Welcome n00b.
> > 
> > Lindows: su? we don't need no stinking su.
> > 
> > FreeLSD: Uh, how did this make it into the mix? 
> > 
> > SuSe: the most promising, which is why they'll probably be next to screw
> > the Linux community.  Not sure if I can handle them discontinuing it for
> > a SECOND time.
> > 
> > <rant>
> > I'm a strong supporter of open-source, free software...but wtf good is
> > the GPL if the cycle always ends in the open-source, free software
> > community being screwed?
> > </rant>
> > 
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