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From: jeremiah at nur.net (Jeremiah Cornelius)
Subject: Fw: Red Hat Linux end-of-life update and transition planning

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Just look at the "latest" sendmail available for Solaris 8.

Far worse than the complaints about Debian stable.

So, don't complain about Fedora.  You don't like it - fix it Mr. Know-it-all.  
It's GPL and /community/ based.  You want to use it? You want it to suit your 
needs?  /Participate/ in the community!  You don't like the updater?  You 
might contribute RPMS for apt-get or the Mandrake updater - ported to the 
Fedora back-end. Maybe a secure transport for Kickstart - with the rpmfind 
db?  

The sky is the limit - - if you don't wait for other people to take you there, 
and /complian/ that they aren't!

Jeremiah Cornelius

On Tuesday 04 November 2003 08:22, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
> On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:25:55 EST, Eric Bowser said:
> 
>
> > Fedora seems like it will be unstable/difficult to patch/*insert
> > whatever here* in an intentional effort to extract money from users for
> > the enterprise version.  I don't debate the business sense behind their
> > decisions, but they have made a viable OS available for years, gotten
> > everybody addicted, and then replaced it with your choice of headaches,
> > or a pay-to-play product.  Don't drug dealers do that?
>
> 
> On the other hand, commercial OS's tend to be *really* static, without
> much innovation - look at IBM's z/OS, there's still remnants in there
> from OS/360 in 1964.  People complain that Solaris hasn't picked up
> <whatever> that other vendors have been doing for years.
> 
> That's the price of stability.
> 
> You should be glad that RedHat is willing to finance a distro where
> the Next Big Thing can develop, even if it isn't their official product.
> It's quite possibly the best thing that could have happened to
> *both* RedHat and Fedora lines - now there's no longer the big
> stability/innovation conflict that having one product line trying
> to do both had.
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