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From: Valdis.Kletnieks at (
Subject: Sidewinder G2 

On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:44:01 MST, Michael Gale <>  said:

> I believe two of the most secure firewalls are Cisco Pix and the
> BorderWare Firewall. Cisco does not offer any services and Borderware
> offers a few for small business and are very restrictive.

For a machine that doesn't have any services, the Cisco PIX is infamous
for breaking SMTP. Google for 'cisco pix smtp' and let me know if you still
think the PIX doesn't have services on it.
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