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Message-ID: <002b01c3bd0a$ef17e8b0$6600a8c0@aliandev>
From: kaber at aliansystems.com (sir kaber)
Subject: points of analysis

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When mapping out the internet, where packets go, etc.. We often find
our packets going to a few large hubs and everything gets routed
through ATDN, ComCast and ATT (United States). Since most of the
packets on the internet end up going through these hubs, I was
wondering has anyone had any first hand experiance with information
related to internet monitoring ? Besides the usual goverment
monitoring through Carnivore? And another question I had is
encryption useful ?
Here's an excerpt from BODY OF SECRETS by James Bamford (book about
NSA)
http://aliansystems.com/tmp/bk.jpg

And from pratical matters that I am familiar with, today's super
computers have gotten quite fast and cost-effective and ORACLE's
Databases can process millions of requests per microsecond and
branches of the government are always looking for ways to make more
money, etc.. Monitoring the internet and what we search, and selling
the data to advertisers seems like an ideal way to make 100's of
millions of $'s. I read an excerpt from an article that said when
Verisign tried to own the internet (route noname sites to it's
website) it was getting about 750 million requests per day. And if
the goverment is already mining our data, why aren't we seeing more
targeted advertising ? Advertisers spent approx 281 Billion last
fiscal year IIRC.


I feel that good topics to discuss would be encryption, Internet
Monitoring and Data mining. IDC reports that Security and Secuirty
Services and data storage (mining and analysis) are following steady
growth rates. Most of the encryption companies aren't doing so well,
I believe most people believe that since there are so many packets of
information being thrown out, if they look at the numbers it's highly
probably that there packet will be discared cause there's so much
clutter, etc.. So they see Terabytes of data changing hands, but many
don't know the powers computers have reached and how efficient
they've become :)

thoughts ?
- -sir kaber
;http://vertexabuse.cjb.net





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