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Message-ID: <20031215190525.D45081@dekadens.coredump.cx>
From: lcamtuf at ghettot.org (Michal Zalewski)
Subject: A new TCP/IP blind data injection technique?

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003, Michael Gale wrote:

> Well first of all, one of the industry leading firewalls ( BorderWare
> Firewall Server ) does NOT pass fragmented packets.

What I was asking for, is whether you have any further information about
this? Or is it just the way you have it configured? I would be surprised
if this is a default for commercial production-grade firewalls, as it may
- quite simply - prevent some people from communicating with you in some
situations. Most commercial firewall vendors go as far as disabling PMTUD
just to avoid this.

> I have a rule at the beginning: iptables -A INPUT -f -j DROP

Ok - this is a very specific configuration, then. On most sane firewalls,
it is not necessary to drop fragments (and, quite frankly, not
particularly wise, either) - the firewall will simply reassemble all
traffic before forwarding it any further (this is something you suggested
is going to be implemented for BorderWare, and a functionality present for
long years on systems like Linux)..

Cheers,
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