full-disclosure - Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause

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Message-ID: <200401190351.i0J3pCpH014104@ms-smtp-03-eri0.texas.rr.com>
From: mailinglists at wjnconsulting.com (Wes Noonan)
Subject: Religion... was RE: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause

I agree completely. I thought I had been abundantly clear that this was my
position in all of this.

I also think this thread has likely run its course short of new information.

Wes Noonan
mailinglists@...consulting.com
http://www.wjnconsulting.com 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Marshall [mailto:mmarshall112@...cast.net]
> Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 21:38
> To: 'David F. Skoll'; 'Wes Noonan'
> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: RE: Religion... was RE: [Full-Disclosure] Re: January 15 is
> Personal Firewall Day, help the cause
> 
> Can we please just stop OS-based arguments?  And can we agree that all OSs
> earn their places, rightfully?  Windows has earned very few security
> points
> to date (and maybe none), but we can move toward securing this OS despite
> its programming shortcomings.  Windows, and thankfully, linux isn't going
> away any time soon.  Linux installs mostly secure by default, windows
> installs insecure by default, but that doesn't mean people can't harden
> either OS and make it more secure.
> 
> Personaly, I've run a large data center using both OSs (various versions)
> securely for over 5 years.  I've developend and implemented windows and
> linux hardening templates.  There are many ways to secure and harden both.
> As many have pointed out, layers matter.
> 
> Mike
>