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From: pwicks at oxygen.com (James Patterson Wicks)
Subject: [inbox] RE: Anti-MS drivel

I agree on the Novell statement.  I read about it last night.  I'm sure
that IBM will follow suit.  Still does not solve the problem with
re-educating your IT staff and desktop users is still and long and
expensive proposition.  

As far as Apple goes, I never questioned their commitment to the
enterprise, I questioned their ability to compete effectively due to
their screwed up attitude about their product and their prices.  When
was the last time you heard a CTO talk about migrating 10,000 users to
OS X.  The cost factor alone would make a CFO cringe.  

Apple needs to replace their army of design engineers with MBA's.  Spend
less time trying to make their products prettier and concentrate on
increasing market share.  When Steve Jobs was asked about the screwed up
pricing on the new iPod Mini, he said that they are marketed to
"existing iPod owners so that they can have one iPod for normal use and
one for the gym . . ."   And he said it with a straight face.  Is that
how you increase market share?  It's that attitude that keeps Apple at
5%, and until that form of thinking is forced out, Apple will LOSE
market share before it gains a percent more.  



-----Original Message-----
From: Curt Purdy [mailto:purdy@...man.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 10:34 AM
To: James Patterson Wicks; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: RE: [inbox] RE: [Full-Disclosure] Anti-MS drivel

Wicks wrote:

> Microsoft has competition.  Apple, Sun, Red Hat . . .
> 
> Problem is Apple is full of idiots who feature style over substance.
> The system has to look better than it performs.  The OS is more stable
than
>Microsoft, but their elitist attitude will
>always keep them at 5% market share.

> Business on the other hand is moving slowly to Linux.  Why 
> slowly?  Who
> do you sue when your business is hacked by someone who planted a
> backdoor in the Linux kernel? 

Your point about Apple is off the mark.  However that very statement
applies perfectly to MS.  They take the best OS they ever made, W2K
(though not as good as the other three mentioned) and make a pretty
interface for XP while adding very little in functionality but adding
tons of bugs and security flaws to come up with the worst OS since 3.1

If you doubt Apples commitment to a solid, secure, enterprise strategy,
read Tom Yager of InfoWorld sometime.  I would gladly give you 2-to-1
odds on your 5% market prediction.

As for Linux, the problem is not who to sue, otherwise MS would have
thousands of suits against it right now.  The problem is support and
that has now been solved with Novell's acquisition of Suse.  The
combination of the most secure OS around with an experienced, quality
support staff, fully integrated with Linux is a driving force.  Novell
has finally got it right and their growing market share in the
enterprise will reflect that.

Curt Purdy CISSP, GSEC, MCSE+I, CNE, CCDA
Information Security Engineer
DP Solutions

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If you spend more on coffee than on IT security, you will be hacked. 
What's more, you deserve to be hacked.
-- White House cybersecurity adviser Richard Clarke

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