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Message-ID: <200401192336.i0JNaBLd008611@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks at vt.edu (Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu)
Subject: Fix the broken windows by building a wall PLUS a question on encrypted file systems 

On Mon, 19 Jan 2004 09:28:05 PST, Daniel Sichel <daniels@...derosatel.com>  said:

> I usually don't take sides in religious wars, but as an observation, at
> my last job I put up a Linux based DNS and mail server unfirewalled.
> Within 3 days, it was streaming porn for some guy in Brazil. I replaced
> it with an Open BSD server, which I created with almost no knowledge of
> Bind, qmail or Open BSD, and it is still up today, three years later,
> unmolested. So, there is something to be said for secure OSes.

Is it secure, or is it lack of market share?

The people who are hacking into a box to set up a streaming porn server
want the biggest bang for their buck.  All you've proven was that 3 days
after you set up the Linux box, some scanner with a working Linux payload
poked you, and that so far you haven't been visited by somebody who
had an OpenBSD version of an exploit.

And let's face it, if there's a vulnerability in BIND or Apache or something
like that, you're a hell of a lot better off getting a Linux exploit if all you're
looking for is raw numbers of sites.  There aren't enough OpenBSD sites to
make much of an incremental difference.
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