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Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.4.43.0401201219170.10946-100000@tundra.winternet.com>
From: dufresne at winternet.com (Ron DuFresne)
Subject: Anti-MS drivel

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004, yossarian wrote:


	[SNIP]

>
> I checked the flaws reported the last week - and yes I read many many lists,
> some 250 mails per day - and the only thing getting close to software used
> in bigger environments is this BEA thingie 5 days ago. Yeah, and I quote: "a
> weakness in BEA WebLogic Server and Express allowing malicious people to see
> a password when it is entered {a weakness in BEA WebLogic Server and Express
> allowing malicious people to see a password when it is entered - it is
> echoed to the screen when using ANT". So what? Looking at a keyboard is
> easier. And stuff like BEA, or any J2EE for that matter, are just emerging
> on the perifery, and have still a long way to go. The security industry is
> primarily focussed on what is happening in small computing or the internet,
> and these discussions here just mirror this narrowness. Alas, yet true. This
> is also an explanation for the lack of legal claims - one of many, I know
> that - against MS for the vulnerable software, it rarely hurts the bigger
> companies that can afford the legal costs. And Yes you guys can give me a
> lot of examples of companies hits over the years. So can I. But think again,
> there are a lot of big companies out there. Do they all keep silent? You
> think they can?
>

Actually BEA weblogic trinkets fit right into the middle of the core
infratructure and so blend their threats into the whole set/suit of
applications they are bound to, like in our case, authentication.

Makes their trinkets more then periphery...my employer also fits not the
small business model, tends towards the large end really.

Thanks,

Ron DuFresne
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