full-disclosure - Anti-MS drivel

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Message-ID: <200401210317.i0L3HdU25028@netsys.com>
From: mmarshall112 at comcast.net (Mike Marshall)
Subject: Anti-MS drivel

Finger-pointing is a trivial task, solving the M$ problem isn't.  M$ has
built one of the best UIs on the planet, but that doesn't give them a
license to ignore all of the security problems in their OS.  Check out Red
Hat 9.  We should exit and destroy our ivory towers; they have no useful
purpose anymore.  Smart and creative people succeed, regardless of the
era/technology/company/product.

Mike

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[mailto:full-disclosure-admin@...ts.netsys.com] On Behalf Of yossarian
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 8:04 PM
To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Anti-MS drivel

Erich wrote:
> What MS actually does is leading customers into a trap. MS Products 
> look as if they were so easy to use that _every_ body colud work with 
> it, just like that - "you don't need to know a thing". Intuitive User 
> interface etc.

So, basically, you are blaming the MS people for building a UI that can be
used by anyone. Duh. Let's give 'em a TSO interface. That'll scare them away
from the computer so they won't just click on any attachment. Better still,
they would be using typewriters. Yep, I still miss my Underwood, like others
miss the Unix prompt - not concealing the complexity of the beast, or worse.
At the same time we can withdraw to the ivory tower of the IT department,
where users are just a nuisance. Lets call it Data Central.

Don't forget users pay the bill. And to put it bluntly - your job would not
exist if it had not been for the PC revolution. Neither would mine. Without
MS's distributive powers and later - mid 90s - marketing power, grey haired
people probably would still be scribbling in COBOL and we would be
delivering the internal mail - by hand in those funny envelopes where you
strike out the name of the user before you.

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