full-disclosure - Culprit Bio: Perfect Storm Averted or Just Ahead?

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Message-ID: <EA7C77F97CC73F4AAC856A4595DF34E2032B5469@swilnts801.wil.fusa.com>
From: Glenn_Everhart at bankone.com (Glenn_Everhart@...kone.com)
Subject: Culprit Bio: Perfect Storm Averted or Just 
    Ahead?

Maybe so, but forth isn't that hard to learn, there are free ones
out there, and if a virus kit someone found had a forth interpreter
in it, maybe our writer decided to learn. Also, if you want to
hide identity, changing the name in all files is the first thing
you do, preferably with some tool that will just go and replace all
instances of "ivan" with "andy" (for example). 

What old examples of forth for virii exist? Thought it rings a bell
but I don't recall what exactly the example was.

-----Original Message-----
From: Clairmont, Jan [mailto:JMC13@...l3.cs.state.ny.us]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 1:04 PM
To: 'full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com'
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Culprit Bio: Perfect Storm Averted or
Just Ahead?

I thought about the CVS as a red-herring but Ego, these guys want to see
their name in lights.

But again don't track the leads, we have no clues.  Believe me at the Forth Conference in 1983, there were only about 50 people.  So I would put a
10 dollar bill that the guy was there.  Who uses forth to hack bios?

If there are a 1000 Forth programmers in the world I would be surprised.
They would need communications knowledge, programming, being one myself
there are not too many of those.   This narrows the gene pool significantly
if anyone in the know is searching.

I was hacked by some bozo in 1987, and they caught the guy and he got 5
years.  
AM I sorry he got caught NOOO.  Having my system hacked is like soemone
coming into my unlocked apartment fouling up the place and leaving.  They
should be
prosecuted and sent away.  It is hard enough to get work done in the world
without these saboteurs around.  Did you ever work days or years on
something
and have it destroyed by some disgruntled bozo,  that is malicious and
heinous. I have noooo sympathy.

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Knobbe [mailto:frank@...bbe.us] 
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:25 PM
To: Clairmont, Jan
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Culprit Bio: Perfect Storm Averted or Just
Ahead?

On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 09:06, Clairmont, Jan wrote:
>  There is the CVS tag that mentions Andy.  So there is an association 
> with Andy and Forth.

Unless of course Ivan added that intentionally to throw you off course. You
just swallowed hook, line, and CVS tag.

Regards,
Frank

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