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Message-ID: <200401301906.i0UJ6XtG057176@mailserver1.hushmail.com> From: ngiles at hushmail.com (mike king) Subject: Script Kiddies -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I typically don’t respond to posts, but I will say that you basically hit the nail on the head security has and is starting to become the next level of mcse's. I don’t proclaim to be any sort of hacker although I am lumped into this category by the nature of my job. I help secure networks and make it so people can do their jobs in the online world. just an avg guy On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:23:38 -0800 Uncle Scrotora Balzac <scrotora@...hmail.com> wrote: > >I love hearing security people talk about script kiddies. It's the >funniest >thing to see them walking around with their chests pushed out like >peacocks, > as they scoff the silly little kiddy. > >Funny because 99.9 percent of the people using the term so loosely >have >no idea how to *really* find vulnerabilities in systems, compromise, >> >gain control, hide their presence, then use it for whatever they >want. >Hell, a significant percent of those "security [engineers/professionals/consultants/researchers]" >(circle one) have trouble compiling exploits (if they even know >where >to find them in the first place), much less figure out offsets, >return >addresses, etc.. The same exploits those "kiddies" use!! What these >people >don't realize is that the "kiddies" they so affectionately refer >to have >learned this practice by reading comments, headers, and cryptic >help >messages in code and scripts. Not by completely out-of-touch and >wickedly >outdated texts like their CISSP study guides, vendor whitepapers, > and >books by aging whitehat hackers. Irony. > >But like I said, this practice is funny, not annoying. It's funny >because >of the false sense of superiority these people get from referring >to >95%+ of the hacking community as kiddies. It's funny because of >how much >they *really* don't know - and advertise the fact with huge neon >signs >by getting on lists like this and asking for things like SSH exploit >code so they can "learn how exploits work!" (By the way, to the >whitehat >who was arguing with everyone after getting char grilled flamed >for this >- - if you want to learn how exploits work, there's about 1000 of >them >at www.packetstormsecurity.com.) Funny every time a box on their >network >gets whacked, and they talk about the script kiddy that did it. >How ironic >is that, and what does it say about them? But that's right, it's >not >their fault. Always someone else's, which makes me wonder why any >of >these people have jobs in the first place. I'm glad they can't hear >themselves. >Then they might stop. > > >- --- >"...we have smuggled a word into the dictionary which ought not >to be >there at all--Self-Sacrifice. It describes a thing which does not >exist... >We ignore and never mention the Sole Impulse which dictates and >compels >a man's every act: the imperious necessity of securing his own approval, >> > in every emergency and at all costs." - Samuel L. Clemens > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 2.3 wkYEARECAAYFAkAaqn8ACgkQUjm7xSZSd8E4KACgj0kVB0gtE4vRzGyzC2UxVfpK9swA n2duTmAfFlvfDxNwjkHBjiMAiV6Z =9ZJk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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