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From: jeremiah at (Jeremiah Cornelius)
Subject: credibility (was 'more security people')

> There should be a hands-on challenge to any security certification
> requirements.  Perhaps something like: "Find and infiltrate the PaX
> protected system on network X.  You must write your own exploit to gain
> root through ssh using return-into-libc.  Remove all traces of your
> intrusion from the logs (they're append only).  Don't alert the Snort
> box." 
> I don't have a CISSP btw so I'm biased.

Yeah.  Give me 6 to 9 months on that one, guy!

Your point is well taken - but I think that someone who is able outline the issues from scratch (as you have just done here) is good enough on the issues side to contribute in a meaningful way.

So - how many unpublished roots to ssh do you have, anyway? ;-)

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