From: Glenn_Everhart at bankone.com (Glenn_Everhart@...kone.com)
Subject: Oldest Hack Sept. 1970 Just for Fun

So who first discovered the execute bug in 7090 (maybe 709)? That
was a DoS, trying to execute an execute instruction (the instruction
took forever or until someone pulled the plug, whichever occurred
first) ;-) .

Of course back then we were more selective about what was called
a hack, requiring a certain cleverness. The old story about the
CERN programmer who inserted the random Donald Duck picture print
into the bubble chamber analysis code, for example, would I think
have qualified.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sebastian Krahmer [mailto:krahmer@...e.de]
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2004 8:25 AM
To: Exibar
Cc: Clairmont, Jan; 'Gary E. Miller'; full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Oldest Hack Sept. 1970 Just for Fun


On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Exibar wrote:


Hi,

Reminds me of a numeric math class at university where we "managed" to
DoS a BASIC programmable caluclator with an infinite loop. You had to
drop out the battery. Unfortunally the teacher was not amused.

my 2 cents :)
Sebastian


> Not really a hack but it was fun:
> 
>     Back in HighSchool, sophomore year I think, 1984, our HighSchool had a
> PDP-10 for Pascal, Fortran, Basic, and cobol classes.  This was the first
> year that computer programming was offered if I remember correctly.  Well, I
> wrote an infinate loop in Fortran (accidentally, really!), well guess what I
> did, I caused the first DoS.  That infinite loop simply sucked up all the
> cycles that poor hunk of iron could give it and wouldn't allow anyone to do
> anything.  Of course, my terminal was able to anything I wanted, as long as
> it was terminating the program ;-)
> 
>   After I discovered what I unintentionally did, and both programming
> teachers were done pulling out their hair, I quietly kept my little infinite
> loop in the back of my head for future use.  I don't think I ever used it
> again though....  really!  probably because they knew that I knew how to do
> it and I'd be blames straight away for any "lock-ups" of the system :-)
> 
> 
>  You guys decide if it was a hack or not, not even in the 60's or 70's but
> mid 80's, It really was unintentional but I look back at it and smile :-)
> 
> Exibar
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Clairmont, Jan" <JMC13@...l3.cs.state.ny.us>
> To: "'Gary E. Miller'" <gem@...lim.com>
> Cc: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 1:49 PM
> Subject: RE: [Full-Disclosure] Oldest Hack Sept. 1970 Just for Fun
> 
> 
> >
> > That's the spirit, just curious.  I teach and it is fun to have
> > material to relieve the boredom.
> >
> > Hopefully, the statute of limitations has run out on us all 8->
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary E. Miller [mailto:gem@...lim.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 1:37 PM
> > To: Clairmont, Jan
> > Subject: RE:[Full-Disclosure] Oldest Hack Sept. 1970 Just for Fun
> >
> >
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> > Yo Jan!
> >
> > I got to Brown University in 1971.  By then there were already many tales
> of
> > people hacking the university mainframe in the lat '60s.
> >
> > So you are going to have to go WAY back.
> >
> > My HS had a Model 33 teletype that we could use to dial to a local
> > university mainframe.  In 1968 I tricked a GE time share guy giving demos
> at
> > a mall to show me his dial-in number, username and password. With that we
> > ran up the HS long distance bill for months playing with the fancy GE
> > mainframe.
> >
> > RGDS
> > GARY
> > -
> > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -
> > Gary E. Miller Rellim 20340 Empire Blvd, Suite E-3, Bend, OR 97701
> > gem@...lim.com  Tel:+1(541)382-8588 Fax: +1(541)382-8676
> >
> > On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Clairmont, Jan wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:58:36 -0500
> > > From: "Clairmont, Jan" <JMC13@...l3.cs.state.ny.us>
> > > To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> > > Subject: RE:[Full-Disclosure] Oldest Hack Sept. 1970 Just for Fun
> > >
> > > For all you oldies and newbies anyone know of an
> > > older student or other hack?  Back in Sept. 1970
> > > we as Waukesha HS students got in a teletype, modem and
> > > had access to BASIC, I mean BASIC.  We were allowed
> > > 2 hours computer time. And of course one of us
> > > "wise group of birds" David Ferrie, found out how to change the system
> > > time, so we could program all day.
> > >
> > > Anyone know of an older hack, just for the Guiness Book
> > > of Records?
> > >
> > > TIME$ A$=TIME$
> > >
> > > Jan Clairmont
> > > LDAP and Solaris Admin. Consultant and anything else I can Get my
> > > Hands On.
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