Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0402071307510.11010@symantec>
From: research at bugtraq.org (Bugtraq Security Systems)
Subject: cDc on orkut, like drunks huddled behind the dumpster of the Internet

Let us paste your forum post.

Global Domination through Media Saturation. Forward to the President. Red
Alert. Full Steam Ahead. Power on. This is a Media Global Domination
Update from the Cult of the Dead Cow's Ministry of Propaganda. You have
never seen us, but you may have felt our wrath. We operate in the bitter
darkness outside the known channels. We thrive in the ferro-concrete walls
of the technological civilization. We are the stainless steel rats,
gnawing at the underpinnings of the 'Information Superhighway', spreading
the power and propaganda of the Cow wherever we go. Founded in 1984, the
Cult of the Dead Cow (cDc) is the oldest group still active in the
computer underground; the only group to host its own annual HoHoCon hacker
convention. cDc is definitely cooler than the Legion of Doom (LoD), and
more importantly, our T-shirts are more colorful. We also have stickers.
Great, you may say, but have we ever disrupted communications on two
continents by moving telecommunications satellites? Mhm. Hacked computing
resources belonging to the three-letter agencies and the Pentagon? Yep.
Altered environmental controls in local malls via modem? Done that. But
unlike other hacker groups you've undoubtedly read about, we've never been
caught. With qualifications like these, it's not surprising that over the
past few years, the media has looked to us as the darling boy (and girl)
torch-bearers of the DIY-cyber-hacker-underground movement. It's our
unfortunate cross to bear. But as the whole of Generation X follows our
lead into the new millenium, we feel it is our duty to our peers to
maintain the struggle and "raise high our freak flag," as it were. On
their behalf, we intend to dominate and subvert the media wherever
possible. Information is a virus. And we intend to infect all of you.
There is no vaccine. There is no escape. There is no hope.
There is only cDc.
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Let us start with: You guys suck. Without Dildog (hi Chris), you would
have had basically nothing interesting to say, and you have nothing now.
"Altered environmental controls in local malls" shit. Not only are you hacking your
local malls in the most obvious and least imaginitive way, you are
admitting to it on a site running ASP.Net, which you've published your own
pictures and other personal information on. Do you think a setting of
"friends only" protects you at all? You probably DO.

To put it bluntly: To define cDc as successful as a hacker group is to
define hacker as "complete poser". "Oh, but we hacked Defcon and filled up
the rooms and gave away free cd's with half-assed backdoors on them and a
virus" yes, yes, that you did. But you guys are to real hackers what
linked chains of cave bacteria are to a martian rover - irrelavant.

<xxxxx> can you mention that the only reason that they never got
        caught is that all of them stopped guessing passwords to systems
        decades before lance spitzner started deploying honeypots
<yyyyy> hahahaha

Thanks,
GOBBLES Research Team (Bugtraq Security Systems)
"We track bugs so you don't have to!"

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