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From: John.Airey at (
Subject: Apparently the practice was prevalent

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Martin Macok
>Sent: 10/02/04 17:43
>Subject: Re: [Full-Disclosure] Apparently the practice was prevalent
>On Tue, Feb 10, 2004 at 11:23:55AM -0000, wrote:
>> Regardless of what you think of these 'ancient' RFCs, you must bear
>> in mind that an even more 'ancient' RFC determines the format of the
>> email you are reading, RFC 822. It's worth pointing out that anyone
>> who does not have an "open" email relay is in breach of this RFC

>Not true.

At the risk of descending into a playground argument, 'tis true. Sections
4.3.2, 6.2.2 and 6.2.6 imply that you have an open relay. In fact, RFC 2822
which obsoletes RFC 822 doesn't even mention relays. Remember that RFC 822
was written before spam was something other than the subject of an ironic
Monty Python sketch. I haven't even mentioned 'ancient' ethernet which is
getting on for 25 years old. Is there any RFC that specifies that open
relays are a bad idea? I can't find one.

Anyway, if we all wish to ignore RFCs and do our own thing, we might as well
abandon inter-operation now and go back to closed protocols.

(no sig with Outlook Web Access. Bah...)

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