full-disclosure - RE: W2K source "leaked"?

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From: tlarholm at pivx.com (tlarholm@...x.com)
Subject: RE: W2K source "leaked"?

This is not the first time that people have reported leaked copies of
Windows source code. In 2000, Wired News reported that the source code
for Whistler (now Windows XP) had been leaked, though they never
confirmed it.

http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,35135,00.html

WinBeta is also reporting on the new leak

http://www.winbeta.org/winbeta/forums/index.php?showtopic=2663&st=0&#ent
ry9449

0-day exploits being used on Microsofts network, foul play by privileged
partners or a hoax? Let's see what Microsoft reports.

Regards

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-----Original Message-----
From: Gadi Evron [mailto:ge@...tistical.reprehensible.net] 
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 1:49 PM
To: bugtraq@...urityfocus.com
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com; Thor Larholm
Subject: W2K source "leaked"?

A couple of days ago a friend of mine drew my attention to the source 
making rounds on the encrypted p2p networks, I was hoping it would take 
a bit longer for it to be "out", but that was just day-dreaming.

Thor Larholm just gave me this URL, as you can notice, the server is
busy: http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?id=17509

I never believed in 0-days. "New" or more to the point 
un-known-to-the-public exploits and vulnerabilities exist and are being 
used.
In my opinion "0-days" virtually don't exist. It's usually either some 
vulnerability that is long known and a COP or a worm is created. Or 
exploits that will nearly never see the "public" but exist and are used 
by few individuals.. but now... I don't know.

How often does a brand new exploit come out without prior warning and
"attack" the net?

*If* this really is the.. _real_ source code for W2K (and according to 
the article NT4 as well).... we'll see what happens next.

People didn't need help finding vulnerabilities in Windows before, but 
it just became a whole lot easier and a lot less demanding on the "m4d 
#4x0r 5k111z".

I can't really say that the article is right and the source was "leaked"

or "stolen". The source is being sold/given (?) for years now to EDU's 
and commercial companies for research purposes (not to mention China..).

I suppose foul play is always possible.

Can anyone confirm this is the real source code? How about a press 
release? :)

	Gadi Evron