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Message-ID: <Sea1-F111YCT4aJ6pkN000000b6@hotmail.com> From: randomisedletters at hotmail.com (Random Letters) Subject: Re: Microsoft Security, baby steps ? Who are these people who install 'desktop trinkets' and X window managers? You sound as though you're speaking from direct experience. Give us some examples of desktop trinkets installed on webservers. You sound a bit too smug to me. ---------------------------------------------------------- If you're happy and you know it clap your hands ---------------------------------------------------------- Does HoTMaiL come with a spell checker? > > That's an admin/installer issue, tooo many folks on too many OS'es tend > > to install the kitchen sink on systems that don't need all the toys > > trinkets and tools that a desktop developer might need in specific > > circumstances. > > > > While redhat has become the linux version of M$ in all the neato > > desktop trinkets it has available, the admin doing the install needs to > > have enough whits about them to know how to trim the fat and lock the > > box for the purpose it is being comisioned for. Too many web servers > > exposed to the public have too many desktop trinkets and X window > > managers that are not required for the purpose at hand. > >Look: I am in perfect agreement with you, we are *not* saying anything >different ! >The same savvy admin I mentioned is the one that would harden (and keep >the installed software to a minimum) not only BSD, but also Linux, and >Windows too ! >But not ALL admins/installers are like that. Unfortunately I have to say >that most of them have no clue, and rely too often on default >configurations.... which in turns creates new easy targets.... > >It definitely is an installer/admin issue. >But on any OS :) > >I *definitely* prefer the approach where you don't have anything and you >build the system from the ground up (debian, gentoo, BSD for example). >But the same clueless installer who will leave the dafault bells and >whistles on redhat and on windows..... is the one who could not even >INSTALL BSD in the first place.... so here we are again....It's a vicious >circle.... 17:12 _________________________________________________________________ It's fast, it's easy and it's free. Get MSN Messenger today! http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger
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