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Message-ID: <9B66BBD37D5DD411B8CE00508B69700F05ADDE53@pborolocal.rnib.org.uk>
From: John.Airey at rnib.org.uk (John.Airey@...b.org.uk)
Subject: Re: Administrivia

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason [mailto:security@...enik.com]
> Sent: Friday, 19 March 2004 01:08
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com
> Subject: [Full-Disclosure] Re: Administrivia
> 
> 
> Nick FitzGerald wrote:
> 
> > John.Airey@...b.org.uk wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>And please guys, stop cc'ing me. I'm on the list and have 
> been almost
> >>since it started!
> > 
> > 
> > Indeed.
> > 
> > First, it is actually _rude_ to CC responses to messages from "self-
> > moderating" lists (such as Full-Disclosure) to the poster 
> and the list 
> > because, by definition, the poster is on the list and will see your 
> > reply.
> > 
> 
> Perhaps a read over RFC 1855 would be in order for a few?
> 
> ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/rfc1855.txt
> 
> but *I* prefer to be in the recipient list if I have joined in on the 
> discussion, it is clearly a discussion I am interested in or 
> felt like 
> chiming in on. I have filters... they filter... they filter 
> differently 
> if I am a named to or cc... discussions I am participating in 
> by default 
> float to my attention.
> 
Except I would add that the quoted RFC (which is informational, not
mandatory) does say that signatures should be kept short:

    - If you include a signature keep it short.  Rule of thumb
      is no longer than 4 lines.  Remember that many people pay for
      connectivity by the minute, and the longer your message is,
      the more they pay.

The observant will note that mine breaks this advice (although it doesn't if
you ignore the extra bit that I put in. It usually offends at least one
person). The RNIB disclaimer is outside my control, except that I have
pointed out that it can lead to our own email being classed as SPAM and
suggested a link to a web page would be better.

Anyway, it follows logically from this that most people wouldn't like to
receive more than one copy either.

I won't even mention the number of evil remailers out there that are
resending messages to this list and bugtraq like it's going out of business!

- 
John Airey, BSc (Jt Hons), CNA, RHCE
Internet systems support officer, ITCSD, Royal National Institute of the
Blind,
Bakewell Road, Peterborough PE2 6XU,
Tel.: +44 (0) 1733 375299 Fax: +44 (0) 1733 370848 John.Airey@...b.org.uk 

Shameless movie plug - go see the Passion of the Christ!

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