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Message-ID: <200403230812.i2N8C0Y25255@singularity.tronunltd.com>
From: Ian.Latter at mq.edu.au (Ian Latter)
Subject: commerical rainbow crack?

Hello Richard,

  I haven't read the whole thread yet, but if this is what you came
to, then there are a couple of other options;

   plJohn
     http://www.hick.org/~johnycsh/code/

  CHAOS
     http://itsecurity.mq.edu.au/chaos/

  plJohn is a perl wrapper for piping one dictionary combo out 
into a swarm of JtR crackers (for an openMosix cluster primarily).
And then CHAOS is a bootable CD implementation of openMosix with
"forkjohn" - a binary version of plJohn that I implemented - to
do the same thing.  Take your closest computer lab and dedicate
the whole thing to the process, and you'll have an audit outcome in
no time (exactly what I built CHAOS in the first place).

  The advantage of this type of usage of JtR, versus systems like
djohn (and a couple of others) is that your don't need to modify the
JtR executable itself -- just pipe what you need around (you could
prolly use your imagination with netcat and get away with using it
without a cluster, if you're looking at something simpler).

  The irony of ironies .. is that *the* password that I wanted to 
audit; I still haven't established the hash-type for, so the primary
purpose has really become moot.


NB: 

  If you're going to end up brute forcing the password, rather than
dictionary-attacking it, then consider Cisilia also;
    http://www.cisiar.org/proyectos/cisilia/home_en.php



----- Original Message -----
>From: "Richard Stevens" <richard@...net.co.uk>
>To: <full-disclosure@...ts.netsys.com>
>Subject:  RE: [Full-Disclosure] commerical rainbow crack?
>Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 21:28:12 -0000
>
> thanks to all for the input., looks like john it is, with a little more patience :)
>  
> out of interest, anyone think  a distributed project using john would be useful?  something 
like the SETI screen saver thing... 
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--
Ian Latter
Internet and Networking Security Officer
Macquarie University


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